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How do they actually decide when a car is “totaled”?

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film_james
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It’s wild how often this comes up with older or rare cars. The thing is, insurance companies use something called the “total loss threshold”—basically, if repairs cost more than a certain percentage of the car’s value (sometimes as low as 60-70%), they’ll call it totaled. Doesn’t matter if it’s just a pricey headlight or a whole engine. It’s all about what the car’s worth on paper, not how well it runs. Frustrating, especially for folks who actually care about their cars, not just the numbers.


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Title: Paper Value vs. Real Value—Been There

It’s all about what the car’s worth on paper, not how well it runs. Frustrating, especially for folks who actually care about their cars, not just the numbers.

That hits home. Years back, I had an old Saab 900 Turbo—ran beautifully, barely any rust, interior was mint. Some kid rear-ended me at a stoplight and crumpled the trunk lid and bumper. Insurance came out, poked around, and basically said “nope, not worth fixing.” I tried to argue that you couldn’t find another in that shape for their payout, but they just pointed to their “market value” charts.

Ever notice how those numbers never reflect what it’d actually cost to replace a rare or well-kept car? I get that they need a system, but it feels pretty harsh if you’re into older stuff. Has anyone managed to get an insurance company to budge on their value? Or is it always just “take the check or walk”?


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Ever notice how those numbers never reflect what it’d actually cost to replace a rare or well-kept car?

- Ran into this with our old Accord wagon—super reliable, low miles, but insurance just saw “old Honda.”
- Their formula: repair cost vs. “market value,” but that “market value” is always the lowest common denominator.
- Tried to show maintenance records, receipts, even local listings. Didn’t move the needle.
- Only workaround I’ve heard is classic/collector insurance, but that’s not practical for daily drivers.
- It’s frustrating. The system just doesn’t care if your car’s actually in better shape than 90% of what’s out there.


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It’s wild how often this happens. You nailed it with:

insurance just saw “old Honda.”
That’s exactly my experience too. I had a Camry that was babied its whole life, and when it got rear-ended, the payout offer was laughable compared to what it would take to find another one in similar shape.

I get why insurance companies use formulas, but it really doesn’t account for cars that have been well cared for or are just rare in good condition. Maintenance records and receipts seem like they should matter more, but they just don’t factor into their math.

Collector insurance is great if you can swing it, but yeah, not realistic if you’re driving the car every day. It’s frustrating, but you’re definitely not alone—lots of us have been there. Just gotta hope nothing happens and keep enjoying the ride while you can.


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Honestly, I get where you’re coming from, but I kinda see it the other way. When you said:

Maintenance records and receipts seem like they should matter more, but they just don’t factor into their math.

Here’s the thing—if insurance started factoring in every oil change and new set of tires, payouts would be all over the place. For people like me (bad luck magnet, high-risk driver, you name it), that would probably mean even higher premiums. The system’s not perfect, but at least it’s predictable. If they had to look at every car’s individual history, claims would take forever to settle, and I bet rates would jump for everyone.

I totally get being frustrated when you’ve taken care of your car, but from a budget angle, I’d rather have a quick payout—even if it’s not perfect—than deal with a dragged-out process that could cost more in the long run. Just my two cents from the “always paying too much already” corner.


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