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How do they actually decide when a car is “totaled”?

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running707
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Yeah, I’m with you on most of this. The math is what it is—if repairs get close to or over the car’s value, insurers just aren’t going to pay out more than what they think it’s worth on paper. I’ve had a basic Accord get totaled after a fender bender just because the airbag went off and the shop quoted some wild labor rates. It’s not just rare cars that get the short end.

One thing I’d add: sometimes the “market value” they use feels way off, especially if you’ve kept your car in great shape or it’s got low miles for the year. Kelley Blue Book or NADA doesn’t always reflect what you’d actually have to pay to replace it with something similar. That’s where it gets frustrating, especially for folks who take care of their stuff.

Agreed value or classic policies are smart if you’re driving something special, but for most people, you’re kind of stuck with the system. It’s not perfect, but I get why they do it this way. Just wish there was a bit more flexibility for well-maintained cars, honestly.


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geo896
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sometimes the “market value” they use feels way off, especially if you’ve kept your car in great shape or it’s got low miles for the year.

Totally feel this. My ‘98 Mustang looks like it just rolled off the lot, but according to the insurance, it’s worth about as much as a used lawnmower. The system just doesn’t care if you’ve babied your ride for years. I’ve tried showing them receipts and photos—no dice. Unless you’ve got that agreed value policy, you’re basically at their mercy. It’s a little soul-crushing, honestly.


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It’s wild how little the actual condition seems to matter unless you’ve got one of those classic car or agreed value policies. The standard insurance process usually just takes the average market value for your make, model, and year—then maybe adjusts a bit for mileage, but not for how well you’ve maintained it. I ran into this with a ‘99 Camry I’d kept spotless, but when it got rear-ended, the payout barely covered a beater.

From what I’ve read, unless you can prove substantial upgrades that actually increase resale value (and even then, it’s a fight), they stick to their formulas. Receipts for regular maintenance or cosmetic stuff don’t really move the needle. It’s frustrating, especially for folks who take pride in keeping their cars pristine. If you’re worried about it happening again, agreed value is really the only way to lock in what your car’s actually worth to you... though it’s not cheap. Otherwise, we’re kind of stuck with their math, no matter how much it stings.


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I swear, insurance companies must think every car from the 90s is just one bad day away from the scrapyard. I had a ‘01 Accord that was basically my baby—waxed, vacuumed, the works. Some guy sideswipes me in the parking lot, and suddenly my car’s “totaled.” The adjuster barely looked at it before quoting me a payout that wouldn’t even buy a decent bicycle.

Receipts for regular maintenance or cosmetic stuff don’t really move the needle.

That’s the part that gets me. I had a folder full of receipts, even the original owner’s manual, and it made zero difference. Apparently, unless I’d gold-plated the wheels or something, it was just “average market value” and off you go. Makes you wonder why you bother keeping it clean.

Step-by-step, it feels like:
1. Baby your car for years.
2. Someone else wrecks it.
3. Insurance shrugs and hands you lunch money.
4. Repeat with next car (optional).

I guess agreed value is the way to go if you’re super attached, but for us students... yeah, not in the budget.


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Some guy sideswipes me in the parking lot, and suddenly my car’s “totaled.” The adjuster barely looked at it before quoting me a payout that wouldn’t even buy a decent bicycle.

Not sure I totally agree about receipts being pointless. When my old Camry got rear-ended, I fought the adjuster a bit and actually got them to bump the payout up after I showed proof of recent work—new tires, brakes, that sort of thing. It wasn’t a huge difference, but it helped cover more of what I’d put into it.

Still, you’re right about “average market value” being the main thing. Sucks when you’ve kept your car in way better shape than most. But sometimes pushing back with documentation is worth a shot, even if it’s just for a little extra cash.


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